Wednesday, February 3, 2016

The things we can never know

 In our discussion of history being told as a fictional narrative, one of the main points that came up (or at least one of the points that I picked up on) was that since we can never know whether or not a supposedly fictional event happened, technically we can't differentiate between some of the fiction that Doctorow writes and the actual events that took place at that time.

One big example of this is the encounter between Houdini and Harry Thaw. In the story, Houdini is escaping from a cell on the same block that Harry Thaw is being kept in the Tombs. He is cuffed naked in the cell and must break free and put on his clothes as part of his act. As he completes this he sees Thaw across the gantry watching intently. When he begins putting his clothes on, Thaw begins taking his own clothes off until finally he is naked and Houdini is fully dressed. At this point, "The prisoner came up to the front of his cell and raised his arms in a shockingly obscene manner he thrust his hips forward and flapped his penis between the bars...Houdini was to tell no one of this strange confrontation" (34). This example depicts an event that while very strange, cannot completely be proven to be untrue. Because Doctorow says that Houdini never told anyone about this, there is a chance that this is all completely true and Houdini just never told anyone. This is an example of this blurred line between fiction and history that adds to the question of whether or not history is all just a fictional narrative. 

The argument for history being fiction is largely dependent on the fact that most of our history comes in the forms of anecdotes or personal accounts that have been verified by any number of means. This "human aspect" of our history is a crucial piece in this puzzle because there is a chance (although statistically minuscule) that every personal account we have is wrong and doesn't tell us what actually happened. While this is very, very unlikely, a result of this is that much of our history is clouded by perspectives, which only give one side of the event. 

As a result of this potentially unstable "human element" in history we tend to gravitate towards hard facts and "proof" of events when trying to verify things in history. Facts such as recorded statistics or hard evidence like video recordings from surveillance cameras. But even these things can be susceptible to perspective or not telling the whole story. One example that we discussed briefly in class was the assassination of John F. Kennedy. This is a very controversial example because although we had seemed to have "hard evidence" supporting the presumption that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assailant, video footage has emerged that seems to show a second shooter. 

These examples seem to serve only to complicate the question, as there is not one definitive answer. Personally, I was skeptical towards history being a fictional narrative, but after this discussion I have become more open to the idea and I now agree that the line between is definitely more blurred than I had previously thought. What do you guys think?


7 comments:

  1. I also thought about this topic and after discussing in class, it really is harder to differentiate history in its "pure" form without, as you explained, the human element. The thing is, history doesn't tell us everything that has every happened and thus, events like the Houdini and Thaw interaction presented in Ragtime can either be completely made up, or not important enough to be recognized by history.

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  2. To your example, Houdini must have told someone (unless Doctorow is some all-knowing figure) otherwise the author would not have known about the events. Like you, the idea of pure truth of history has been shaken for me. On the other hand, I feel like fictional is word that at the moment has too many implications that make it unsuitable to accurately describe history.

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  3. The idea of an event that *may have* happened but for which no evidence exists is, as you suggest here, prime territory for fictional exploration and speculation, but would probably be outside the bounds of conventional academic history. You can't just make stuff up wholesale in that discipline--but here we're getting at one of the ways Doctorow suggests fiction might actually be a *superior* format for delivering historical narrative, because the fictional author can reveal truths about the past (and present) through imagined events and encounters.

    In actual historical disputes, it's probably less often an issue of whether or not something happened *at all* and more an issue of how and why it happened, or what the details are (and which might be left out or minimized or underreported), or what the happening *means* for the bigger picture.

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  4. Before the discussion, history and fiction were definitely two very distinct entities in my mind as I had always been taught history is fact and fiction is just that. Fiction. I think the point Mr. Mitchell brings up in his comment is an excellent way to think about this discussion because we can't go crazy and claim everything that comes to our minds could be real, but if a historical narrative is delivered with fact and the human element you described, it can go a long way in helping us understand the why instead of just the who, what, when, and where like we typically think of as historical fact.

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  5. I agree with your statement about the intricacies of the Kennedy case. If we really want to be 100% sure about something happening, you need to basically know what everyone or everything was doing at that moment. History needs some interpretation or some sort of fictional aspect just to fill things out so we can have at least some idea of what transpired in the past.

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  6. It's weird to think how much of the past is unknowable. The more we talk about this, the more I wonder how much the minute details we could dispute on actually matter. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying knowing our past isn't important, but even the same facts can be interpretted so many different ways to fit so many agendas, it almost matters more who's telling the story than what the story is.

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  7. After reading Ragtime, I was also very curious to know if various interactions between characters actually took place in real life. I particularly want to know if Henry Ford and JP Morgan actually did met and establish that little club of "elites" that no one else was allowed to join. But then again, it doesn't really matter if they met or not it would just be cool if they did.

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